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A yau, ina maraba da lauya Ralf Ludwig zuwa ɗakin studio ɗinmu.

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Na gode ƙwarai da gaske da ɗaukar lokaci don amsa
tambayoyinmu masu kayatarwa, tambayoyin da ke ƙonewa!

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Kai ne ɗaya daga cikin masu kafa abin da ake kira ZAAVV.

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ZAAVV – bari in karanta shi: gajeriyar kalmar
ZAAVV tana nufin Cibiyar Bincike, Bayyanawa,

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Shari'a da Rigakafin Laifukan Cin Zarafin Dan Adam.

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ZAAVV ta bayyana a wani lokaci da zan iya kwatanta shi da abin da
nake kira "kwanan baya", wanda na shaida da

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kaina a matsayin matuƙar danniya,
barazana, takura; a wasu kalmomi, ainihin zalunci.

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Kuma haka ne ZAAVV ta samo asali, da nufin tabbatar da
cewa hakan ba zai sake faruwa ba kuma mu fahimci hakan.

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Abin da ya faru a can – kuma bai kamata ya sake faruwa ba!

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Yanzu, a wannan lokaci – lokacin coronavirus, lokacin annoba – an
kakaba matakan tilastawa da dama, waɗanda, idan aka duba

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baya, aka gano ba su da buƙatar likitanci, kamar yadda
ka'idojin Robert Koch Institute da aka bayyana suka nuna.

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Wannan kawai yana nufin an kakaba mana matakai ne saboda dalilai
na siyasa kawai, ba tare da wata hujjar likitanci ta gaske ba.

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Kuma hakan ya kai ni ga dalilin da ya sa ni, mu a
Kla.TV, muke son yin magana da kai musamman. Kuma

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wannan gaba ɗaya daga mahangar aikace-aikace ne.

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Kwamitin Dindindin kan Rigakafi yana ba
da shawarar yin rigakafin polio sosai.

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Haka kuma ana maimaita tattaunawa da muryoyi da ke
cewa ya kamata a gabatar da tilastaccen rigakafin polio.

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An soke shi a wancan lokacin, amma
lokaci ya yi da za a sake gabatar da shi.

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Kuma a matsayina na ɗan ƙasa, a halitta ina da
tambayoyi. Shin ina so in yi wannan, shin dole ne in yi

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wannan, shin ya kamata in yi wannan? Kuma ina neman bayanai.

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Kuma kwanan nan na karanta rahoto mai ban
sha'awa daga Torsten Engelbrecht da Hans Tolzin.

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Suka rubuta a rahotonsu cewa waɗannan alamun cutar polio, wato
nakasa da sauransu, na iya faruwa ne sakamakon

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guba – DDT, arsenic, gubar da sauransu –
waɗanda za su iya haifar da irin waɗannan alamun.

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Don haka kuma kuna da wani da ake zargin yana da cutar shan inna.

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Kuma ko ga Farfesa Dr. Bhakdi, wannan ba ya bayyana gaba ɗaya.

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Kwayar cuta: Me ke tallafawa kwayar
cutar? Me kuma akwai? Da sauransu.

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Wani abu ne da ke cike da tambayoyi da yawa.

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Saboda haka tambayata gare ka a matsayin ƙwararren masanin doka:

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Idan, a matsayin ɗan ƙasa, na karɓi rigakafin
polio, misali, kuma ba a fayyace batun ba, shin zai

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yi kyau a sa ran ɗan ƙasa ya bi irin wannan tsari?

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To, amsar doka ta al'ada: ya danganta.

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Abin takaici, mun ga a lokacin annobar coronavirus
cewa kotuna ba su kare mutane ba kuma cewa kotuna...

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A yanzu, zan ce koyaushe cewa wannan shawara ce
ta mutum ɗaya, kuma bai kamata a yi wa mutane

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wasu matakan likita ba ba tare da yardarsu ba.

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Wannan ne a zahiri abin da muka koya
kuma muka ɗauka daga zamanin Nazi.

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An gudanar da gwaje-gwaje a kan mutane, an
yi wa mutane magani ba tare da izninsu ba.

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Kuma shi ne dalilin da ya sa ɗaya daga cikin darussan da aka
koya daga zamanin Nazi shi ne: kada a sake, ba zai faru ba!

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To, ka'idojin 40s ko duk yadda ake kiransu, ko?

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Daidai ne, amma a asali har yanzu yana game da
Jawabin Duniya na Haƙƙin Dan Adam da ƙa'idodi ko

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jerin haƙƙoƙin asali da aka samo daga gare shi.

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Akwai yarjejeniyar ilimin ɗabi'un halittu,
wadda, a gefe guda, Jamus ba ta amince da ita ba.

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Amma Yarjejeniyar Bioethics ta haɗa da wannan,
haka nan kuma Takardar Hakkin Asali ta Turai.

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Don haka ake maimaita shi sau da yawa: babu tilasta
magani, babu maganin likita da ya saba wa ra'ayin mutum!

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Kuma an takaita hakan sosai a karon
farko yanzu a lokacin annobar coronavirus.

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Sai 'yan siyasa suka fi kusan gane cewa za mu iya yin wannan.

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Kuma shari'a, wadda a zahiri ya kamata ta kasance
tana ba da matakan gyara, ba ta yi wannan gyara ba.

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Wannan shi ne abin da muka fuskanta har zuwa yanzu.

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Kuma wannan shi ne ainihin haɗarin da, kamar yadda ka faɗa, har
yanzu yake nan tun daga wancan lokacin mai ɗaci, kuma ɗaya

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daga cikin dalilan da yasa ZAAVV ke wanzuwa, domin mu
iya tsoma baki a wannan takamaiman wuri mu daga yatsu mu ce:

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Jira ka ɗan, a gaskiya muna da ƙa'idar asali.

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Kuma tun lokacin da aka kafa wannan ƙa'idar ɗabi'un kimiyyar
halitta – wadda a zahiri ake tattaunawa a kanta tun daga

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shekarun 1990 – an karkata wajen fayyacewa da ƙarfafa cewa ba
a halatta a ba kowa magani na jiyya ba tare da yardarsa ba.

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Amma a fili wannan ra'ayi na hakkin ɗan adam ya saba wa muradun
masana'antar magunguna, kuma kusan ya saba wa wata babbar

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masana'antar duniya wadda ke samun kuɗi mai yawa daga gare shi.

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Eh, haka muka fahimta a lokacin annobar coronavirus.

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Hakan ya riga ya kasance kafin barkewar cutar coronavirus.

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Har yanzu haka yake, ko da bayan annobar coronavirus.

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Don haka, yana game da kuɗi mai yawa, yana game da
iko mai yawa, tasiri, fannonin sha'awa da sauransu.

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Kuma ka ambaci STIKO .

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STIKO, tabbas, ita ma ainihi wata na'ura ce ta
aiwatar da waɗannan ra'ayoyi. Ba za a manta da hakan ba.

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Don haka, STIKO – idan ka kalli yadda STIKO ke aiki a zahiri...

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Don haka STIKO kwamitine, ina tsammanin yana da mambobi 18.

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Kuma a cikin STIKO, wannan Kwamitin Tsaye kan
Rigakafi, wanda ke kafa abin da ake kira ƙananan kwamitoci.

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Don haka hakan na nufin akwai kwamitin
coronavirus – ko ma dai, ƙungiyoyin aiki.

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Akwai ƙungiyar aiki don nau'ikan alamun cuta
daban-daban da matakan da suke duba don

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tantance ko ya kamata mu ba da shawarar yin rigakafi.

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Sannan akwai ƙa'idoji masu bayyane. Don haka, a ƙa'ida,
idan ka duba da kyau, komai doka ta tsara shi da kyau.

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Saboda STIKO ana sa ran za ta bayar da shawarwari a lokacin.

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Suna karɓar kimantawa na binciken da ke akwai
game da waɗannan takamaiman hotunan asibiti.

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Sannan ana rarraba waɗannan nazarin bisa ga ma'aunin hujja .

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Don haka, a takaice, mun san cewa wannan wani
bincike ne da mutane da yawa suka halarta kuma wanda aka

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gudanar a matsayin bincike mai makantar sau biyu .

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Don haka, ana rarraba shaida daga irin wannan bincike bisa
ka'idojin kimiyya, sannan mambobin STIKO, ko mafi dacewa waɗanda

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ke cikin kwamitin da ke ba STIKO shawara, sukan sami
kusan cikakken bayani na kimiyya game da yanayin asibiti

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da ake magana a kai da kuma halin da ake ciki a yanzu.

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To menene ainihin abin da muka sani game da wannan cuta, menene
abin da muka sani game da alamominta, menene abin da muka sani

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game da yadda take ci gaba, menene abin da muka sani game da
tsaninta, menene abin da muka sani game da magunguna, a wannan

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yanayin alluran rigakafi, da ke kare mutum
daga wannan cuta, yaya waɗannan alluran

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rigakafi suke aiki, menene illolinsu, da sauransu.

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Kuma bisa ga wannan hujja, STIKO ya
kamata ta yi shawarwari ko kuma kada ta yi.

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Eh.

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Matsalar dai ita ce cewa sau da yawa babu wani bincike
da ke tabbatar da ɗaya ko ɗayan daga mahangar kimiyya.

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Wannan ita ce babbar matsala. Kuma yanzu ga dabara...

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Tambaya ce kawai:

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Shin hakan na nufin cewa, a wasu yanayi,
abubuwa kamar guba ba a yi la'akari da su

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kwata-kwata ba a cikin wannan tsarin kimantawa?

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Da farko – zan koma kan wannan nan ba da
jimawa ba – da farko, tambayar ita ce, menene

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ainihin abin da waɗannan binciken ke faɗa?

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Amma, wane irin ƙarfi hujjojin da waɗannan binciken suka gabatar?

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Eh, to da farko, tambayar ita ce: shin hujjojin suna da
matuƙar ƙarfi, ƙarfi, matsakaici, rauni ko matuƙar rauni?

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A mafi yawan lokuta, ba mu da wani
bincike da ya wuce hujja matsakaici.

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Don haka, misali, zai yiwu bincike su ce:
waɗannan alamun da muka danganta da wannan cuta,

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watakila wasu dalilai daban ne suka jawo su.

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Don haka, na yi imani, shi ne abin da kake nuni
a cikin wannan takardar da kake magana a kai...

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Don haka akwai yiwuwar gaba ɗaya cewa muna kiran
wani abu da polio, alhali ba polio bane kwata-kwata.

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Ko, idan muka koma kan annobar coronavirus, muna kiran wani abu
Covid – Covid ita ce cutar, wato cutar coronavirus – muna kiran

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wani abu Covid wanda a zahiri ba Covid ba ne, sai dai kawai yana
da alamomi kamar ciwon makogwaro, tari, ciwon kai, gajiya ko

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wani abu da ke da dalilai daban-daban kwata-kwata, amma duk
da haka muke ci gaba da kiran sa Covid. Ba mu san hakan ba.

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Kamar cuta mai yaduwa.

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Daidai, lokacin wannan rashin lafiya, Covid.

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Kuma matakan kiwon lafiya da STIKO ta ba
da shawara ana nufin yaki da wannan cuta.

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Amma hakan na iya kasancewa ba haka ba, domin
binciken da muke da shi, musamman kan Covid, mun san

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cewa babu wani bincike mai tabbatacce kan Covid.

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Ba game da cutar kanta ba, kuma ba game da hujjojin matakan ba.

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Yafi kama da cewa dukkan binciken da muke
da su suna da ƙasa sosai ko ma matuƙar ƙasa.

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Muna da bincike guda ɗaya mai matsakaici, wanda
shawarar STIKO ke nuni da shi, wanda ke magana

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ne game da tasirin magani. Kuma hakan ba ya isa.

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Kuma a al'ada, STIKO tana cewa waɗannan su ne
abin da ake kira hanyoyin aiki na yau da kullum, eh.

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Suna da dindindin, su ne hanyoyin duniya baki
ɗaya ko ƙa'idodin duniya baki ɗaya da ake bi

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wajen rarraba cututtuka da tasirin magunguna.

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Ya kamata su kasance aƙalla matsakaici
koyaushe. Amma ba mu da hakan kwata-kwata.

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Kuma hakan na iya kasancewa da polio, ban sani da
tabbaci ba, amma dole ne ka duba nazarin da STIKO ke da su.

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Kuma watakila ba mu da wani bincike
kwata-kwata da ya wuce matsakaici.

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Sannan – kuma ga dabara – idan ba mu da yanayin lafiya, STIKO ba
ta yanke shawara ne kawai bisa hujjojin

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likitanci da kimiyya ba, sai kuma wani abin da ake
kira Kwamitin Yanke Shawara ya shiga tsakani.

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Kuma wannan Kwamitin Yanke Shawara yakan
ce: Yaya za mu iya kawo wannan kasuwa?

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Yaya mutane za su karɓi shi? Shin likitoci za su yi adawa?

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Shin za a sami adawa daga kantunan magani? Da sauransu.

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Yaya arha magunguna irin waɗannan da sauransu?

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Sai kwatsam shawarar kimiyya ta zama
shawarar siyasa. To. Kuma a nan ne...

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Kuma hukuncin kasuwanci.

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Eh, an riga an yanke shawarar kasuwanci tun farko.

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Sai dai kawai shawara ta siyasa ce, wadda tabbas sau
da yawa ake yanke ta ne saboda dalilai na kasuwanci.

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Sannan, tabbas, muna da masu lobbacin da
ke ba 'yan siyasa shawara bisa ga haka.

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Sannan akwai masu lobbacin da ke ba RKI shawara da sauransu.

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Kuma kwatsam wani abu ya zama shawarar STIKO, ba tare da an sanar
da mu cewa hujjojin likitanci da ake buƙata ba su

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wanzu kwata-kwata ba, amma an yi watsi da
rashin hujjojin likitanci domin yanke shawarar siyasa.

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Wannan ita ce ainihin halin da muke ciki, kuma duk wanda ke da
shawarar STIKO ya kamata ya sani cewa shawarar STIKO ba ta ce:

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Muna da hujjojin kimiyya a nan da ke nuna cewa an yi cikakken
bincike kan wannan cuta, an yi cikakken bincike

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kan tasirin magunguna, da kuma cutarwar magunguna da
illolinsu, amma watakila ba mu da su kwata-kwata.

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Shawara ce ta siyasa kawai wadda ke
cewa za mu kawo shi kasuwa duk da haka.

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Kuma tare da shawarwari da shawarar STIKO, a
bayyane muke da yanayi inda magani ke

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sayarwa fiye da yadda zai kasance ba tare da su ba.

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Wannan abin tsanani ne. Ba batun jin daɗin mutane ne kawai ba, ba
shi ne abin da ake mai da hankali a kai ba;

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sai dai wasu muradun daban gaba ɗaya suka zama
abin da ake mai da hankali a kai cikin sauri.

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Mista Ludwig, bana son tsaya kan
batun polio, sai dai in zurfafa kaɗan.

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Misali, likitan, Dr Stefan Lanker,
yana mai da hankali kan tunani da ji.

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Cikin tunanin ɗan adam yana da muhimmanci ba wai kawai ga yadda
mutum ke ganewa ba, har ma ga alamomin da ke bayyana a jiki.

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Wani bincike na shekarar 1984, wanda ya jaddada duka
lafiyar kwakwalwa da abinci, ya nuna cewa abinci lallai yana

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da tasiri – ciki har da kan alamomin da jiki zai iya samu.

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Kuma a can, misali, an kuma bayyana cewa
gubobi, gubobi na muhalli, na iya shafar tunani.

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A kwatsam sai na ji baƙin ciki ko tashin hankali ko
wani abu daban, wanda kuma sau da yawa ke shafar jiki.

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Don haka akwai abubuwa da dama da a ƙarshe ke tasiri ko
ke ƙayyade alamomin da jiki ke bayyana, bari in faɗa haka.

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Don haka ba koyaushe abu yake da sauƙin fahimta kamar yadda
mutane ke faɗa ba; misali, game da Covid-19, ana

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ganin ƙwayar cutar ce ke haifar da rashin lafiya, amma
akwai yiwuwar wasu abubuwa da dama ne ke haddasa hakan.

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Farfesa Bhakdi ya kuma ce, misali, cewa a yanayin cutar hanta
kamar hepatitis, sau da yawa magunguna, watakila ma amfani da

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magunguna ba bisa ƙa'ida ba, shan giya, duk irin waɗannan abubuwa
suna taka rawa, ba wai kawai ƙwayar cutar hanta ke sa hanta

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ta kamu da rashin lafiya ba. Kuma shi ya sa nake lissafa shi.

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Gaskiyar ita ce, yanzu muna da sabon yarjejeniyar annobar WHO.

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Sannan akwai Ka'idojin Lafiya na
Duniya – waɗanda WHO ma ta kaddamar da su.

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A ka'ida, an riga an ba mu shawara a aikace: Ya ku mutane,
muna shiga wani zamani na annobobi masu ci gaba, babu

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yadda za a kauce masa. Komai yana da alaƙa a duniya baki ɗaya.

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Kuma idan wani lamari ya faru a Afirka – duk abin
da zai kasance – to dole ne mu fara yi wa mutane

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rigakafi anan, a matsayin mataki na kariya da sauransu.

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Amma idan duk waɗannan alaƙa, waɗanda kawai suke alamun jiki, har
yanzu suna da fannoni da dama kuma ba a bayyana su ba, to a

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matsayin 'yan ƙasa, ƙarƙashin abin da zan kira ZAAVV, wanda ya
taso a lokacin firgita-firgita na annobar

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coronavirus, lallai ya kamata mu tambayi
kanmu: ta yaya za mu hana irin waɗannan laifuka?

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Laifi ne a kan bil'adama cewa muna sake fuskantar takunkumi, ana
tilasta mana shan magani, kuma ana iya

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tilasta mana shiga asibiti, kamar yadda aka yi a
babban ƙwayar a Italiya da sauran ƙasashe.

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An gano kana da Covid-19 – yanzu dole ne ka tafi asibiti.

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Dole ne a ware ku da sauransu. Sannan a tilasta
muku shan magani, a tilasta muku amfani da

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na'urar taimakon numfashi, mutane sun mutu kamar ƙwari.

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Wadannan duk laifuka ne masu tsanani sosai.

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Kuma idan wani abu makamancin haka yana gab da
faruwa, yayin da WHO kusan ta riga ta sanar da shi:

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Yanzu muna shiga wani zamani na
annobobi. Dole ne mu tanadi kanmu don haka.

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Ta yaya 'yan ƙasa za su iya kare
kansu daga wannan? Me za su iya yi?

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Da farko, a matsayin 'yan ƙasa, mu mutane ne masu 'yanci.

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Mu mutane ne masu 'yanci, muna iya kula da kanmu da farko.

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Kuma ina ganin cewa WHO da wannan labarin annoba da muke da shi
yanzu, tabbas, kayan aikin talla ne ga masana'antar magunguna.

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Kuma kawai ka duba waɗanda a zahiri ke ba da
kuɗi ga WHO da waɗanda ke zuba jari a WHO...

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To, wanene wannan?

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Eh, daga cikin wasu, Gidauniyar Bill &
Melinda Gates tana biyan kuɗaɗe masu yawa.

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Don haka, yayin da ƙasashe da yawa ke janye tallafin kuɗi
daga WHO, za a fi samun tallafin kuɗi daga masu zaman kansu.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa kamfanoni masu zaman kansu, masana'antar
magunguna, Kamfanonin magunguna da ƙungiyoyin ɓoyayyunsu na da

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sha'awar tabbatar da cewa ƙungiyoyi kamar WHO, STIKO, Hukumar
Magunguna ta Turai, Hukumar Magunguna ta Amurka da sauransu

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koyaushe suna mai da hankali kan shawarwarinsu da ra'ayoyinsu
game da mafita na magunguna – kuma kaɗan kan abin da ka ambata,

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wato mafita na abinci da kuma watakila na ilimin halayya.

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Wannan shi ne ainihin yakin al'adu da ke faruwa a Amurka.

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A gefe guda, muna da lauya a can, Robert Kennedy Junior, wanda
shi ne Ministan Lafiya a Amurka kuma shi ne wanda ya kafa motsin

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MAHA, wato motsin Make America Healthy Again,
wanda ya taka muhimmiyar rawa wajen zaben

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Donald Trump a matsayin shugaban ƙasa tun farko.

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Saboda wannan motsin MAHA game da Robert Kennedy a zahiri ya fito
ne daga bangaren Jam'iyyar Democrat, wato Jam'iyyar Democrat,

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kuma shi ne a jihohin da ake fafatawa inda ya
tabbatar cewa kuri'un da suka dace sun je

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wa Trump, har Trump ya lashe waɗannan jihohin.

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Ya ci a matsayin ɗan jam'iyyar Republican.

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Daidai lokacin da Jam'iyyar Republican ta yi nasara.

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Kuma na san mutane da yawa daga wannan motsin
MAHA, wannan motsin Make America Healthy

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Again. Shi ne ainihin abin da yake game da shi.

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Suna cewa muna dubawa ne kawai idan alamun sun
riga sun bayyana, lokacin da rashin lafiya ya

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barke, to ta yaya za mu magance shi da magani?

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Wannan abu ne bayyananne. Da ni wakilin
kamfanin magunguna ne, ni ma haka zan yi tunani.

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Ra'ayina ba zai kasance: Shin muna da mutane masu lafiya?

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Maimakon haka, ra'ayina shi ne: Ta yaya zan sa mutane su kasance
marasa lafiya sosai har mu sami kudi daga gare su a ƙarshe?

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Saboda masana'antar magunguna ba ta
samun kudi daga mutane masu lafiya.

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Don haka ba batun samun mafi kyawun kiwon lafiya ba ne,
kamar yadda Yarjejeniyar Zamantakewar Duniya ta ce, sai

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dai batun samun riba mafi yawa daga harkar kiwon lafiya.

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Kuma yanzu mutane watakila za su sake cewa Ludwig,
wanda ya faɗi wannan a cikin hirar, mai tsarin ƙarya ne...

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Amma haka duniyarmu ke aiki. Muna rayuwa a duniyar
kasuwanci, kuma a wannan duniyar komai yana nufin samun riba.

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Eh.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa idan kuna cikin
masana'antar magunguna, za ku yi la'akari da:

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Ta yaya za mu tallata kayayyakinmu ga maza
da mata ta yadda za mu amfana daga gare su?

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Da aka kawo batun kakaba haramcin shan taba,
masana'antar taba ta hanzarta kafa wasu cibiyoyi da aka keɓe don

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tabbatar da cewa hayakin taba ba shi da haɗari sosai.

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Kuma, tabbas, ya kuma kafa cibiyoyin bincike da
suka yi nazari kan cutar sankarar huhu da sauransu.

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Wannan ya bayyana sosai. A yanzu, wannan mataki ne na
al'ada gaba ɗaya kuma mai ma'ana da masana'antu ke ɗauka.

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Kuma hakan na nufin cewa masana'antar magunguna tana da sha'awar
sarrafa WHO, kuma masana'antar magunguna ba ta da sha'awar hana

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barkewar annoba, sai dai tana da sha'awar barkewar annoba domin
ta kawo magungunan da suka dace, waɗanda ta riga ta

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yi musu haƙƙin mallaka kuma ta kera su a gaba –
ko mafi dacewa, ta shirya don kera su – zuwa kasuwa.

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Mun ga haka da mura ta alade, kuma
muna ganinsa yanzu da coronavirus.

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Kuma, kamar yadda na ce, za ka iya
ganin wannan motsin mayar da martani.

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Kana son sanin abin da za a iya yi game da shi.

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Don haka a Amurka yanzu akwai wannan motsin
mayar da martani, Make America Healthy

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Again. Suna da wuraren farawa guda biyu ne kawai.

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Babban batu na farko shi ne cewa Kennedy ya ce duk da cewa mu a
Amurka mu ne ƙasa mafi arziki a masana'antu a duniya, mu ne ke da

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mafi ƙarancin tsawon rayuwa idan aka kwatanta da sauran ƙasashe.

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Me ya sa haka? Wannan ba zai yi daidai ba.

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Mu ƙasa ce mai arziki kuma mu na da ƙarancin tsawon rai.

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Sa'an nan ya kalle ya ce: Yaya shirin cin abinci yake a Amurka?

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Sannan, tabbas, za ka ga abinci mai sauri da yawa, abinci marar
lafiya da yawa, abinci mai saurin shirya da

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yawa, abinci na roba da yawa ma, wanda yanzu
ake haɓaka a can, da sauransu. Kuma ya ce...

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Guba na muhalli...

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Gubobi na muhalli, abubuwa da yawa,
magunguna da yawa, a nan ne komai ke farawa. Musamman

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wannan rikicin opioid a Amurka da sauransu.

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Don haka a Amurka, adadin magunguna da ba a
taɓa gani ba... – ruwan sha ba shi da tsafta

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saboda yana ɗauke da ragowar magunguna da sauransu.

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Don haka hakan na nufin zai fara ne
daga wannan takamaiman wuri ya ce:

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Muna buƙatar inganta abinci mai gina jiki; muna
buƙatar tabbatar da cewa mutane suna cin abinci mai lafiya.

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Kuma dole ne mu tabbatar an rage gubobi
na muhalli. Wannan shi ne ainihin hanyar.

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Sannan sai mu gani: Shin abin da masana'antar
magunguna ke faɗa gaskiya ne? Wannan shi ne mataki na gaba...

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Ya maye gurbin kwamitin rigakafi na
tsaye gaba ɗaya a can kuma ya ce:

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Aikin ku yanzu shi ne a duba a zahiri ko duk
shawarwarin da ake da su suna da muhimmanci ko a'a.

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Yanzu kuma duba nazarin hujjoji.

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An yi korafi mai ƙarfi a duk faɗin duniya,
musamman anan Jamus, tabbas, domin ya bayyana...

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To, zan iya gaya maka cewa mun duba wannan dangane da coronavirus,
kuma babu wani bincike mai tabbas game da coronavirus!

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Duk da haka, muna da shawarwari. Eh, muna da
shawarwari na yin rigakafi ba tare da wata hujja mai

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ƙarfi daga bincike ba. Kuma hakan tabbas zai...

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Kuma wannan ne tare da duk munanan
tasirin gefe da kuma mutuwa da yawa.

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Daidai! Kuma ina da tabbacin zai
kasance haka ma da sauran alluran rigakafi.

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Yanzu Robert Kennedy yana bincikar
wannan. Kuma kwatsam sai aka yi babbar korafi.

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Me ya sa? Wa ke haifar da wannan korafi kuma wa ke shirya shi?

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Tabbas, kafofin watsa labarai ma suna amfana matuka
daga wannan tallafin kuɗi na masana'antar magunguna,

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daga tallace-tallace, da kuɗaɗen da aka saka a cikinsa.

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Bill Gates, ga shi nan mun koma ga Bill Gates
kuma, ya biya Der Spiegel miliyoyi da dama, misali.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa Der Spiegel da jaridu,
waɗanda ke samun ƙarancin kuɗi, suna kuma

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dogaro sosai ga tallafin masana'antar magunguna.

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Don haka, a halin yau da kullum, su ma suna ba da
rahoto kan waɗannan labaran. Kuma wannan shi ne makasudin.

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Don haka, da farko dai, a cikin tsarin
siyasa da muke da shi yanzu, ya kamata mu tambayi

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kanmu: su wanene mutanen da ke adawa da shi?

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Yanzu akwai wani motsi mai karfi sosai kuma babba
na adawa da ke fitowa daga Amurka, kuma sun kafa

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wannan MAHA, wannan motsin Make America Healthy Again.

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Babu dalili da zai hana yin haka a Jamus.

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Kuma mu a ZAAVV ma mun shirya gaba ɗaya don
tallafawa waɗannan batutuwan daidai a matsayin ƙungiya.

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Muna riga muna aiki tare da motsin MAHA sosai.

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Mun san mutanen, muna tuni cikin
hulɗa da su, mun riga mun haɗu da su.

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Hakanan yana da muhimmanci a jaddada cewa muna bukatar hujjoji
masu bayyananne daga bincike, kuma musamman

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magunguna ya kamata a rubuta su ne kawai idan muna
da bincike da ke da akalla hujjoji masu ƙarfi.

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Mataki matsakaici har yanzu ana
yarda da shi, amma yana da ɗan yawa.

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Sai wani abu ya canza – ba za a
sake amincewa da magunguna da yawa ba.

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Kuma, tabbas, mutane dole ne su kare kansu.

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Don haka, batu na farko, abin da ka faɗa, tabbas
kowa dole ne ya fara mai da hankali kan yadda yake ci.

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Wannan yana nufin dole ne ka duba ko za ka iya cin
abinci na yankinku da kuma tallafawa manoman yankinku.

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Yanzu sun fito kan tituna don yin zanga-zanga kan wannan manufar
da aka tsakiya, suna jayayya cewa mutane ya

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kamata su ci abincin yankinsu, su ci abinci mai
lafiya, su kuma kula da daidaiton abincinsu.

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Da farko dai, wannan lamari ne na mutum ɗaya. Kuma sai, lokacin
da waɗannan matakan gwamnati suka fara aiki, dole ne ka yi yaƙi.

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Za mu sake fita tituna. Sa'an nan sai
mu ce: A'a, ba zan amince da hakan ba.

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Sannan ka dauki mataki da ya dace.

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Hmm. A matsayin ɗan adam, ka kuma ce: Ni na
da haƙƙoƙina na ɗan adam na kaina, ba za a iya

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sassauci a kansu ba kuma ina nacewa a kansu!

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Kuma ba lallai ne in bi wannan tilastaccen magani
ba, ko menene yake, ko wane irin siffa yake ɗauka.

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Eh, muna ganin cewa sakamakon yana faruwa ta atomatik.

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Misali, muna ganin cewa wannan buƙatar allurar rigakafi da ta
shafi wurin aiki tana haifar da matsaloli

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masu matuƙar tsanani a fannin matasan ƙwararru,
musamman a fannin matasan ƙwararrun likitoci.

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Eh, lallai wannan ma martani ne a kansa.

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Don haka watakila babu wanda zai ce
komai kuma mutane ba za su fito tituna ba.

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Amma matasa da yawa ba sa zaɓar wannan sana'ar likitanci saboda
kullum akwai wannan takobin Damocles da ke rataye a kanta, inda

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mutane ke cewa, yanzu ga annoba ta gaba,
yanzu dole ne a yi maka allurar rigakafi da

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wannan sinadari ka kuma sha waɗannan magunguna.

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Kuma tabbas ba sa son hakan ma.
Suna kuma mai da hankali kan jikinsu.

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Eh, tabbas.

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Kuma sai kawai ka ce "A'a!" ka ce: "Dakata, ba zan yi hakan ba!"

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Kuma idan kana cikin shakka, dole ne
ka ce, "To zan bar wannan sana'a."

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Tabbas, wannan ma hukunci ne na mutum ɗaya.

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Amma na san cewa mutane da yawa sun yi
haka ko da a lokacin annobar coronavirus.

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Kuma musamman waɗanda suka bar sana'ar
da gangan ba za su koma ba. Ba sa so.

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Kuma hakan na nufin muna da – wannan babbar
matsala ce a Jamus, kuma ba a ma tattauna ta ba – wani

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babban gibi a fannin likitanci da ba a cike shi ba.

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Eh, babbar ƙarancin ma'aikata.

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Daidai.

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To, yanzu akwai kuma wannan Vetopedia.

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Shin ka shaida lahani sakamakon allurar rigakafi? Rubuta shi a
Vetopedia, ƙamus kyauta na masu ra'ayin adawa: www.vetopedia.org

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Wannan dandamali, wannan ma'ajiyar bayanai, inda za ka
iya shigar da, misali, lahani na allurar rigakafi yayin

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annobar coronavirus – ko wani lahani na allurar rigakafi.

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Amma musamman a lokacin annobar coronavirus, an samu rahotannin
lamura da dama na lahani sakamakon allurar rigakafi, ciki har

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da mutuwar mutane – da dama daga cikinsu daga baya za a iya...

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Dangi ma za su iya yin rajistar
wannan lahani na allurar rigakafi a can.

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Shin wannan ma ba wata muhimmiyar hanya ba ce, zan
ce, daga mahangar doka, daga mahangar binciken

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shari'a, domin samun wata hanyar aiwatar da aiki a can ma?

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Matakan tilastawa ba su yi kyau a wancan lokacin ba, kuma ba
ma son komawa ga wani yanayi inda ake kawai tilasta mana wani

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abu a annobobi na gaba – da irin waɗannan mummunan sakamako.

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Ba za ka yarda cewa wannan ma
muhimmin kayan aiki ne ga lauyoyi ba?

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Eh, wannan ma wani abu ne da muka
koya daga wannan lokacin annoba.

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A zahiri lokaci ne na matakan annoba.

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Kuma abin da muke gani yanzu – musamman ta hannun
mutane kamar Tom Lausen – a cikin kwamitocin bincike:

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Hukunan da ke da alhakin ainihi ba su yi aikinsu ba.

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Gidan Nazarin Paul Ehrlich bai rubuta bayanan yadda ya kamata ba.

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Ba a aika saƙonnin gargaɗi ba.

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Kamfanonin inshorar lafiya... – a gaskiya, kowa ya kamata
ya sani, domin, mu ce, alamomin gargaɗi suna ko'ina,

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ƙirarrakin gargaɗi ya kamata su riga sun yi ta ƙara a ko'ina.

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Ina nufin, a Cibiyar Paul Ehrlich, mun gano a kwamitin bincike na
Brandenburg cewa Cibiyar Paul Ehrlich ba ta

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ma da isasshen ƙarfin sabar don rubuta duk
rahotannin da suka shigo game da illolin gefe.

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Kai.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa ikirarin cewa ba mu da irin
waɗannan tasirin gefe da yawa ya danganta ne da cewa ba

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a rubuta ko adana tasirin gefe da aka ba da rahoto ba.

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Abin da ban gani ba, ban da shi.
Kuma Tom Lausen ya magance hakan sosai.

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Kuma hakan na nufin cewa ko a can, za mu iya
amfani da ƙirar ne kawai don samun ainihin

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adadin da aka cimma ta wannan allurar rigakafi.

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Don haka, tabbas yana da kyau idan akwai ƙoƙarin masu
zaman kansu da ke yin waɗannan abubuwa daidai, domin

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aƙalla ya zama a bayyane cewa akwai ƙarin misalai da yawa.

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Don haka idan wata hukuma ta gwamnati, wadda kusan tana da
albarkatu marasa iyaka, ba za ta iya fahimtar wannan ba, sai

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wani yunƙuri na masu zaman kansu ya yi hakan, kuma kwatsam ka ga:

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Ya Allah na, rahotanni nawa muke da su a nan,
kuma ainihin abin da ya faru shi ne menene?

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To aƙalla za ka iya duba shi da farko.

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Kuma daga wani lokaci, ko manyan kafofin watsa
labarai, wato kafofin watsa labarai na gama gari, ba za

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su iya yin adawa da shi ko ɓoye abin da ya faru ba.

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Wannan ma wata muhimmiyar kwarewa
ce da muka samu a wannan lokacin.

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Dole ne mu fitar da duk waɗannan
abubuwa daga duhu mu kawo su cikin haske.

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Don haka tambayarka ita ce, me mutane za su iya yi?

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Za ka iya, misali, kafa irin waɗannan
shirye-shirye. Za ka iya yin rijista a can da kanka.

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Za ku iya ba da bayanan ku, ciki har da ga ZAAVV , don
nuna cewa, kodayake ku, a matsayin hukumomin da suka

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dace, ba ku rubuta waɗannan bayanan ba, mu muna rubutawa.

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Ka kuma ƙarfafa likitanka ya ce: Wannan lahani ne na
allurar rigakafi, kuma ina gaya maka ka ba da rahoto ga

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kamfanin inshorar lafiya a matsayin lahani na allurar rigakafi!

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Saboda likitoci da yawa ba sa yin
hakan. Marasa lafiya kawai su nace a kai.

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Likitin yana da wajibin yin hakan. Idan zai yiwu ya zama
lahani daga allurar rigakafi, dole ne ya ba da rahoto.

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Abubuwa irin haka, inda kake nacewa ka ba da rahoto ga kamfanin
inshorar lafiyarka ko, idan kana da shakka, ka

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shiga wani shafin yanar gizo irin wannan ka ba da rahoto
a can, domin mu ga cewa wani abu ya faru a zahiri.

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Kuma za ka ga cewa iska ta siyasa na canzawa.

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Saboda ƙarfin jam'iyyu kamar AfD ko BSW , – a gabashin Jamus,
yanzu muna da sama da kashi 25 cikin ɗari a ko'ina, don haka za

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a iya kafa kwamitocin bincike ko kwamitocin tambaya a ko'ina,
waɗanda aƙalla za su jawo hankalin jama'a kan waɗannan al'amura.

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Kuma kawai ka yi magana ka ci gaba da dagewa.

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Eh, kuma daidai haka nake ji, cewa yanzu lokaci ne mai kyau, a
wannan zamanin bayan cutar coronavirus, don matsa

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lamba a kan irin wannan bita ko kimantawa, don aiki a
kai, musamman domin hana karin laifuka, ko ba haka ba?

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Eh, daidai ne. Ainihin maganar kariya
ce. Dole ne mu koyi abin da ya faru.

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Zan iya ba da shawara kawai ku duba... – yana
kan layi, bidiyon Kwamitin Bincike na Brandenburg.

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A jihar Brandenburg, majalisar dokoki ta kafa
kwamitin bincike don sake nazarin lokacin cutar coronavirus.

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Ba kamar kwamitin bincike ba, hukumar
bincike koyaushe tana kallon gaba kawai.

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Wannan yana nufin kawai ka duba
abin da za a iya yin shi mafi kyau.

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Amma Kwamitin Bincike na Brandenburg musamman an tsara shi ne ta
yadda, saboda yanayin siyasa a can, akwai

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masana masu suka da yawa, kuma waɗannan masana
masu suka da yawa suna samun damar yin magana.

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Mai ban sha'awa.

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Akwai Gerd Antes, misali, akwai Stefan
Homburg, akwai Tom Lausen. Don haka suna da yawa.

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Misali, mashawarcin kimiyya na ƙungiyar majalisar AfD shi ne
Stephan Kohn, wanda ya yi aiki a Ma'aikatar

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Cikin Gida ta Tarayya, ya fallasa wannan
takardar mai girgiza, kuma aka kore shi saboda hakan.

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Yanzu yana cikin tsarin sake kimantawa a Brandenburg, a ce.

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Wannan yana ba mu bayanai masu yawa game da
abin da ya faru, sannan mu duba gaba zuwa makoma.

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Kuma a nan ne daidai inda mahimman matakai suke:
ilimantar da mutane, da farko gano: abin da ya faru a

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can, yadda ya faru, da kuma menene gaskiyar lamarin?

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Kuma Wolfgang Wodarg, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, a farkon wannan
lokacin coronavirus – wanda haka ne ya sa na gane cewa wani abu

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ba daidai ba a nan – ya ce a cikin ɗaya daga cikin bidiyonsa na
farko-farko, watakila ma bidiyo na farko, cewa

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idan da gaske akwai annoba, za mu ga gawarwakin
mutane a kan tituna. Sa'an nan kowa zai sani...

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…wata annoba ce.

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Wannan annoba ce, mutane na mutuwa.

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Kuma ba annobar takarda ba.

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Daidai. Kuma yanzu, idan muka fita kan
titi, ba ma samun kowa da zai iya gaya mana:

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Ai, na san wani mutum da ya mutu sakamakon
coronavirus. Wannan ba kasafai ake ganin hakan ba.

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Don haka babu kowa, saboda za mu ga cewa matsakaicin
shekaru na waɗanda suka mutu daga coronavirus ko tare da

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coronavirus shi ne 84 – wanda ya fi tsammanin tsawon rayuwarmu.

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Amma kowa ya san wani da ya sha
wahala sakamakon allurar rigakafi.

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Kowa ya san wani da ya sha wahala sakamakon allurar rigakafi,
wanda allurar ta yi masa lahani – bugun jini, bugun zuciya,

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ciwon zuciya, kumburin tsokar zuciya, mutuwa da sauransu.

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Wato, ainihin annobar da muke ciki ta
kasance illa ce ta allurar rigakafi.

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Na kuma ga wannan a cikin mutane da ba su
da matuƙar banbanci ko masu yin tsokaci.

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Amma idan na yi magana da mutane a yau – tabbas ba
sa yawan amincewa da hakan a bainar jama'a, amma

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idan suna magana a tsakaninsu, dukansu suna cewa:

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Na san wani, ko na fuskance shi da kaina: tun bayan da na yi
wannan allurar rigakafi, ina jin rashin lafiya,

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kullum ina rashin lafiya, kullum ina samun
matsaloli da sauransu. Kuma wannan ne ainihin maganar.

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Kuma a nan ne mutane za su... – Ina
ganin wannan shi ne darasin da muka koya.

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Kuma idan irin waɗannan tashoshin, waɗanda za a kuma yi amfani da
su a nan gaba, sun fi musu bayyana cewa akwai

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illa, to mutane za su zama masu yin tsokaci sosai
kuma watakila za su fi yuwuwar cewa a'a kuma su ce:

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Ba zan sake bin wannan ba. Ba zan
sake yin wannan wa kaina da jikina ba!

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Eh, na fahimta. Don taƙaita: Gabaɗaya,
ainihin maganar ita ce wayar da kai.

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Ba game da lafiyarmu ba ne, game da
tsarin kasuwanci ne na masana'antar magunguna.

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A zahiri, akwai masana'antu na annoba a bayansa.

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Kamfanoni ba sa sha'awar mu kasance cikin koshin
lafiya; a ƙa'ida, suna samun kuɗi ne kawai daga

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mutanen da ba su da lafiya, idan na fahimta daidai.

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Eh, tabbas, mun sani ma.

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Don haka, ko da tare da likitoci na yau da kullum,
lokacin da likita ke ciyarwa tare da majinyaci yana da gajere.

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Ina tsammanin cewa a zahiri wannan shi
ne matsakaicin kimanin 'yan daƙiƙoƙi.

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Sai likitoci sukan karɓi shirye-shirye na kwamfuta
daga masana'antar magunguna, waɗanda suke amfani da su.

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Sa'an nan maganin da ke bayyana koyaushe shi ne wanda kamfanin
da ya ƙera wannan shirin kwamfuta ko na'urorin dakin likita

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ya ɗauki nauyin kuɗinsa ko ya taimaka wajen biyan kuɗinsa.

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Komai game da kudi ne, tabbas komai game da kudi ne.

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Komai abin da ke faruwa a bangaren kiwon
lafiya namu, a farko dai game da kudi ne.

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Tabbas, zan ce kiwon lafiya tasirin gefe ne.

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Kuma ni ba mutum ne da ke sukar
maganin gargajiya ko yin adawa da shi ba.

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Muna buƙatar maganin gargajiya, kuma musamman a fannin
tiyata, tabbas muna da magunguna na zamani masu inganci

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waɗanda suka dace da kimiyya kuma ke aiki yadda ya kamata.

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Amma a yawancin fannoni ko abubuwa da dama, misali a fannin
ilimin cututtukan daji, duk matakan da ake ɗauka don

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yaki da ciwon daji, tabbas asibitoci ne ke ɗaukar
nauyin su, waɗanda suke cikin bangaren kiwon lafiya.

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Kuma akwai adadi na kuɗi mai matuƙar yawa a ciki.

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Kuma a gare ni, yana da ma'ana sosai in tambayi:
Me ya sa nake tunanin maganin da nake saka a

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jikina kawai, amma ban tunanin abin da nake ci ba?

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Domin shigar abubuwan gina jiki ta baki na
ɗaya ne daga cikin muhimman abubuwa gaba ɗaya.

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Misali, koyaushe ana tattauna game da bitamin D, wanda
yanzu yake ƙara zama abin da mutane da yawa ke magana a kai.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa yana kara bayyana cewa bitamin D ko karin
bitamin D yana da matukar muhimmanci wajen hana kamuwa da cuta.

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Amma bitamin D yana da arha a samu, don haka ba
tsarin kasuwanci bane ga masana'antar magunguna.

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Kuma shi ya sa yawancin fahimtar da mutane
ke da ita, tabbas, su kan riƙe ta da kansu.

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Tabbas, masana'antar kiwon lafiya
kasuwanci ce ta duniya mai darajar tiriliyan fam.

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Kuma tabbas, ana ba da shawarar amfani
da maski idan kana son sayar da maski.

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Kuma, tabbas, sai ku goyi bayan binciken da ke cewa maskin FFP2,
wanda a zahiri maskin ƙura ne, yana kare mutum daga ƙwayar cuta.

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Kuma, tabbas, ba za ka ɗauki magungunan arha da ake samu a
kasuwa ba idan za ka iya samun ci gaba mai tsada da gwamnati

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ke ɗaukar nauyin kuɗinsa – kuma ba tare da wata alhaki ba.

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A ƙarshe, mu ne jiha; muna biyan kuɗinsa da harajinmu.

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Daidai.

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Amma kamar yadda ka ce a farko, kowa na da alhakin kansa.

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Kuma tun da ka ambaci ni a matsayin lauya, ba
zan iya yin wani abu sosai a matsayin lauya ba.

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Abin da zan iya faɗa shi ne cewa hakkin ɗan
adam a zahiri yana hana irin wannan mu'amala, wato

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tilastawa magani, tilastawa jiyya da sauransu.

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Amma idan kotuna kawai suka wuce da shi, kamar
yadda muka gani a nan, to tabbas yana da wahala.

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Sai ka tsaya kaɗai. Idan ka yi shakka, dole ne
ka ce a'a a fili ka ce, "Ba zan bi wannan ba."

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Kamar yadda aka rubuta a rigar T-shirt ɗinku: Yanci yana farawa
da a'a. A gare ni, hakan na nufin haƙƙin ɗan adam na farko.

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Kuma abu na gaba shi ne kawai hana laifi – ina
ganin hakan ma ta hanyar ilimi, ta hanyar

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ilimantar da kanka, sanar da kanka da kuma sanar da wasu.

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Kyau. Na gode da wannan hira. Ta kasance mai haske sosai.

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Wato, babu buƙatar a damu da shi sosai.

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Corona ta yi mana gargaɗi, ta girgiza mu mu farka. Kuma ba
lallai mu miƙa wuya ga duk waɗannan biki-bikin annoba ba.

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Daidai. Na gode da kun ba ni damar kasancewa anan!